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Electromedicine to the Rescue

•  Thread starterintheknow

•  Start dateMar 23, 2019

 

Do you have ME/CFS? Yes

Location Paraguay

Gender Male (he/him)

When did you come down with ME/CFS? 1980

Any treatments/protocols you are trying, and the type of practitioners you have been seeing

blood electrification is the only thing that works to get rid of the causative virus (of course this only applies when the CFS is CFIDS)

ME/CFS severity and level of activity (scale of 0 to 10)

 

10 RECOVERY: Fully recovered, or in full remission.

 

Please tell us a bit about your ME/CFS history and symptoms so we can respond appropriately

I had the viral form for 16 years and recovered by electrifying the blood with microcurrents. Now that I'm old and tired I have to keep up the treatments every day to keep it from recurring.

 

XMRV was found in 85% of patients and so the medical establishment countered that info by jailing Judy Mikovits and creating a false research paper to disprove her. She explains in her book the tactics they used and her unjust imprisonment. But I have a high IQ and I don't need nobody telling me I have a virus when the symptoms are just like having a continuous flu. Don't take no genius to figure that out. So I knew the cause but I didn't know the cure till after 16 years of experimenting and then finally coming across the needed info telling me that miniscule amounts of electric current (AC) applied to the skin above arteries would disable all viruses. But it wasn't easy as it took 2 months of treatment with a total treatment time of 90 hours. Then I mailed a letter to 13 CFIDS organizations to see if they were interested in alternative treatment options and no one responded.

 

User jesse 's mom

Senior Member

at first there was a definite boost to my energy but I feel my hormaonal system had been damaged and the road to complete recovery was long. I just kept getting better and eventually at 46 I was beating 20 year olds at motocross. But right after the 2 month treatment period I no longer had that feeling of internal heat that the disease caused. Then I had my blood inspected under a microscope by a doctor who specialized in that and he said to me "What have you been doing? Your blood is as close to perfect as any sample I have ever seen." I was shy and couldn't bring myself to tell him I had been applying electricity to my blood.

 

User intheknow said:

So I knew the cause but I didn't know the cure till after 16 years of experimenting and then finally coming across the needed info telling me that miniscule amounts of electric current (AC) applied to the skin above arteries would disable all viruses.

Can you provide some more details about your method and the equipment you use?

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Electric current was proven in lab tests to disable viruses from being able to infect cells so Bob Beck took that idea and made his own method for home application. Just get any Beck microbe electrifier that is designed to be used on both wrists. Those designed for use on one wrist aren't very effective.

 

Then start using it 15 minutes a day and if the die-off symptoms aren't bad then increase usage time incrementally each day. If you get bad symptoms then don't use it for a day. To prevent die-off from lowering my chances of success I first cleansed my liver, gall bladder, and kidneys. Just work up to using it 2 hours a day and when you no longer have any die-off then use it 1 week more.

 

But be aware that if you have someone you've been kissing that now they are a carrier of the virus, with or without symptoms. So either dump the person or change to dry kissing. And never ever eat or drink after anyone. Twice I drank after someone and each time I was reinfected and had to go thru a 2 month treatment to get back to normal. I would guess that 75% of people are carriers. I got the disease after kissing my first girlfriend.

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User intheknow said:

Just get any Beck microbe electrifier that is designed to be used on both wrists.

Can you explain the electric circuit details?

 

When you say both wrists, are you connecting the first electrode to one wrist, and the second electrode to the other wrist, so that the electric current flows between these two electrodes along your arms, and across your chest?

 

Or does the current just flow locally at the wrist, between two electrodes that are placed on the same wrist, as shown in this image:

 

Do you know what voltage, current and frequency you used?

 

User intheknow said:

Those designed for use on one wrist aren't very effective.

Do you know why the two wrist devices are better?

 

User intheknow said:

Then start using it 15 minutes a day and if the die-off symptoms aren't bad then increase usage time incrementally each day.

One the ME/CFS scale of very severe, severe, moderate, mild, remission, where were you on this scale before you started this electric blood treatment?

 

And how long in weeks did it take before you achieved remission using this treatment?

 

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the one wrist method pictured lets most of the electric current to short across the wrist instead of traveling in the blood of the arteries to affect the viruses therein. So the device should be designed to have one electrode on each wrist so the current travels from wrist to wrist.

 

The original Beck device outputted an AC frequency of 4 hertz but later it was found that using 10 hertz or higher allows users to take medications, smoke, drink coffee, etc without problems. 4 hertz causes the blood cells to absorb too much of strong substances till they become toxified. So look for a device that allows 10 hertz or higher.

 

Before I started treatment I was fairly sick, too much to hold a normal job, so I just worked for myself. I slept 10-2 hours daily and had just enough energy to enjoy an evening walk. I wasn't bedridden.

 

Getting rid of the virus took me 90 treatmnt hours total. I had a girlfriend even sicker than me but she could never use it more than 15 minutes daily so she never got well. So it is important to do the cleanses first. Your body has to be ready for handling the result of this internal war.

 

Voltage needed is dependent on body resistance so it varies from person to person to acheive the needed .14 milliamps. Anything above 1 milliamp starts to be very uncomfortable so this low amount is often not felt at all.

For me today it is not a hassle at all. I just put it on when I go to bed and fall asleep with it on me. The 10 hertz helps the brain settle down so sleep rythyms are more easily achieved but it doesn't make you sleepy per se.

 

The electrodes stay wet for about 2 hours. When they dry out then electricity naturally stops flowing. The electrodes are just cotton cloth and the minerals in the water in them is what makes them electrically conductive. Distilled water has no minerals and so won't work.

 

User Hip

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I may try this Bob Beck blood electrification treatment myself. I will use a software signal generator on my computer to create a 10 Hz square wave signal, and then pass this signal through an audio amplifier that I have in order to get an output signal of around 20 or 30 volts. I will make some electrodes out of cotton cloth soaked in salty water to place on my wrists, so that the current flows along my arms and across my chest.

 

I will then place a multimeter into the circuit to measure current flow through my arms, and adjust the amplifier output voltage until I get a current of 140 microamps = 0.14 milliamps (mA).

 

My guess is that the electric current flowing through the blood is boosting the immune response in some way, which is then in turn fighting the viral infections associated with ME/CFS. I would not have thought the electric current is directly killing viruses in the bloodstream, as studies have found that there is very little virus in the blood in ME/CFS, because the viruses are usually hiding away in the tissues.

 

For example, if you look at enterovirus, numerous studies have found this virus in the muscle, intestine and brain tissues of ME/CFS patients; but if you test the blood for enterovirus using PCR, the results are often negative. Enterovirus has a way of hiding inside the cells of tissues as a chronic intracellular infection.

 

Although the late Dr Martin Lerner's theory is that ME/CFS involves a chronic abortive herpesvirus infection of the heart tissues (though this has not been proven yet), and with the electric current running across chest, conceivably it may have some direct antiviral effects in the heart tissues.

 

@intheknow, have you had any viral testing to determine which of the common ME/CFS viruses you have (or had) as a chronic active infection? The viruses normally associated with ME/CFS are enteroviruses (coxsackievirus B and echovirus), herpesviruses (Epstein-Barr virus, HHV-6 and cytomegalovirus), and sometimes ME/CFS may involve parvovirus B19, varicella zoster virus or the intracellular bacterium Chlamydia pneumoniae. To be test for these, you have to use antibody tests, not PCR. If you have herpesvirus ME/CFS, then the antiviral Valcyte is often effective.

 

The most similar ME/CFS treatment I have come across to this Bob Beck protocol is this case study using transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) across the head, using a direct current (DC) of 2 mA for 20 minutes daily.

 

I myself tried a treatment like tDCS, where I applied a direct current of around 2 mA to my whole body while in the bath (the bathwater conducts electricity, so if you connect electrodes to either side of the bath, the current will flow though the water, and through you body as well, as the body is mostly water). This is known as a galvanic bath. I noticed that my fatigue was reduced slightly while taking galvanic baths.

 

However, I have not tried applying an AC electric current to myself, only a DC current. So it will be interesting to try this Bob Beck blood electrifier method, which uses AC at 10 Hz.

 

@intheknow, can you please break up your text into paragraphs of around 3 or 4 lines, as the neurological issues of ME/CFS make it hard to read large blocks of text. Thanks.

 

User perrier

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I note that you say your girlfriend never got well because she could not endure more than 15 minutes. Many people are fragile and very sick and would not be able to do this kind of treatment. What would happen to her when doing the treatment??

 

User intheknow

Just make sure that your equipment delivers AC to you, not switched DC. DC creates too many free radicals in the blood which causes damage to blood cells.

 

My girlfriend would get too much die-off reactions if she used it more than 15 minutes. This probably implies she was highly infected with an absurdly low immunity. She should of used it for minimal times every day any way as it would probably of very slowly brought that virus/immunity ratio back towards normalcy.

 

It was research done at the albert einstein college of medicine that showed electric current disables the ability of virus to infect cells. Bob Beck used that as his initial inspiration.

 

User intheknow said:

My girlfriend would get too much die-off reactions if she used it more than 15 minutes. This probably implies she was highly infected with an absurdly low immunity.

 

With any ME/CFS treatment, it's often the case that what benefits one ME/CFS patient causes intolerable side effects in the next patient. I've found myself that treatments which have significantly helped other patients I cannot use because of side effects.

 

User intheknow

Yes but in her case she should of done the cleansings and then tried again. Probably everyone with ME/CFS/CFIDS should do the cleansings because that affects how clean the blood will be since those organs clean the blood. The gall bladder is important to clean because some of the blood trash that the liver cleanses out is deposited into the GB but not if it's stuffed full of gall stones or other dense material.

 

Viruses are like nanobots and don't become "trash" in the blood when treated with electricity. So why does blood electrification produce the side effect that indicates it makes the blood more trashey? Good question, I'm glad you asked. Blood electrification kills bacteria and fungus in the blood and their destroyed bodies do become "trash".

 

Also at 4 hertz the highly infected blood cells "lyse", their cell wall ruptures. So that becomes trash as well as many more viruses now freely circulating in the blood but fortunately the electricity disables them from being able to infect other cells and so the immune cells can capture and remove them.

 

And the loss of those cells signals the system to make more new replacements. The side effect symptoms can be a headache, tiredness, or even nausea if you really over did it. So the correct attitude is that of the turtle to slowly and steadily reach the finish line. Also with the tenacity of a turtle. Myself, I was determined to get well even if I had to eat dog food to do so.

 

Unfortunately many people with this disease have lost all hope and their soul strength is next to nothing due to the daily beatings by this disease. It's a bit of a catch 22. But I was born of two very determined people, both who after smoking for 20 years just decided to quit and completely did so without any backsliding.

 

User Hip

@intheknow, when you started doing this blood electrification treatment, how long did it take before the first signs of improvement in ME/CFS symptoms appeared?

 

You said that the complete treatment took 2 months, with a total treatment time of 90 hours; but did you perhaps begin to see benefits within the first week or two?

 

User intheknow

The goal with blood electrification is to use the device enough to feel worse but not too much worse. Of course people want to feel better, not worse but in this case you have to make your life worse before making it better. It's like investing money. You don't want to lose access to the money but you know that in the end you'll have access to even more money.

 

User intheknow

Well that was 20 years ago but if I recall correctly I mostly just felt even sicker from all the die-off I was experiencing. And that was my main experience for about the first 6 weeks of treatment. Then it slowly leveled off and within a week after stopping treatments one day it felt like my fairy godmother had just waved her wand over me and I once again had the long gone electric-like energy in my body. People could even see it i my countenance and they commented about it to me.

 

User Hip

Two hours ago I just did my first session of Bob Beck blood electrification.

 

I applied a 10 Hz AC 100 microamp current across my two wrists for 30 minutes, using cotton electrodes wetted with salty water. I have not noticed any effects yet, good or bad.

 

@intheknow, you might like to change the title of this thread to something more appropriate, such as: "Bob Beck blood electrification cured my moderate level ME/CFS".

 

Effects are mostly noted the next day. If nothing is noted then increase the treatment time.

 

Notes:

Make sure the electrodes are above one of the two wrist arteries. Feel for a pulse there first.

If the skin is dirty then the electricity will let the dirty sweat absorb into the skin and it will like Godzilla crazy the next day. Best to clean location with alcohol first.

 

If you have dry lips then you are probably dehydrated and more voltage needs to be applied to get enough current in which is more likely to be damaging to the skin. Drink lots of water which also helps your liver and kidneys get rid of the trash. Spring/mineral water is preferred.

 

User Rufous McKinney

User Hip said:

Two hours ago I just did my first session

Interesting thread. So if it would kill a virus, would it not also kill a, say red blood cell or macrophage or other...living cell called: yourself?

 

I think this all warrents further investigation but may be operating more energetically than necessarily directly, say, kill a virus. I've used electrodes on acupressure points and cleared out a direct infection within 29 minutes of application so : I am not being negative about the potential for a positive effect from something like this. Its likely not dangerous if one is cautious and does not over doo

 

A somewhat-related brain product I've been using a Beck Biotuner (cranial electro-stimulation device) and have found that it has been useful for improving my mood and sleep. I'm using one made by Sota.

 

The mood effects have been quite pronounced at times and have lasted for a couple of days after a single 20 minute session with the Biotuner. At other times the effects have been far more moderate but still noticeable. It seems to increase my ability to appreciate humor and have amusing thoughts, and to feel a sense of positivity and even cheerfulness sometimes. This is very welcome since ME/CFS has such a mood and feeling dulling effect on me. Unfortunately I still feel general emotional dullness and lack of ability to appreciate beauty or feel the empathy that I used to, so the Biotuner has a selective influence.

 

It's a product that has some science behind it but text on various sites also include the usual fuzzy and generally meaningless descriptions such as "At a very basic level, harmonic frequencies help "fine tune" the communication system in the body so it functions more efficiently, setting the stage for any healing that needs to take place."

 

Sota in particular is very careful about descriptions because they've had a lot of problems with Health Canada.

 

I was wary at first but based on user reports I decided to get a Biotuner, even though they're quite expensive ($275 US at the moment). I've been using it at various times for about nine months and I think it was worth the investment

 

may try this Bob Beck blood electrification treatment myself. I will use a software signal generator on my computer to create a 10 Hz square wave signal, and then pass this signal through an audio amplifier that I have in order to get an output signal of around 20 or 30 volts. I will make some electrodes out of cotton cloth soaked in salty water to place on my wrists, so that the current flows along my arms and across my chest.

 

I will then place a multimeter into the circuit to measure current flow through my arms, and adjust the amplifier output voltage until I get a current of 140 microamps = 0.14 milliamps (mA).

 

My guess is that the electric current flowing through the blood is boosting the immune response in some way, which is then in turn fighting the viral infections associated with ME/CFS. I would not have thought the electric current is directly killing viruses in the bloodstream, as studies have found that there is very little virus in the blood in ME/CFS, because the viruses are usually hiding away in the tissues.

 

For example, if you look at enterovirus, numerous studies have found this virus in the muscle, intestine and brain tissues of ME/CFS patients; but if you test the blood for enterovirus using PCR, the results are often negative. Enterovirus has a way of hiding inside the cells of tissues as a chronic intracellular infection

 

 

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